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links to calculators see:
Watts vs. Speed
Welcome to the 2008 Wack-a-Widder Leader Board with the list of the fine athletes who
have officially kicked the Widder's ass.
Looking for Race Category watts info? Don't miss the watts to cycle racing category table on the
Super Simple Power to Weight Calculator which includes a Power/Weight to Race Category table such as
Cat 4 Women = how many watts?
Winning athletes are listed in descending order from most recent
wacking of the Widder to the earliest. The Widder's own P.B. for long
haul time trialing is placed at the bottom of the list for reference. By the
time you read this, her performance may
show higher specs than some of those who have beaten her, but once the Widder is wacked, we consider her to be stayed
wacked. Therefore, get your wackings in early as requirements are likely
to
change without notice... they just keep going up and up. (How
to...)
Levels Records W/KG per Allan and Coggan, 2006
(meth=method; PT=Powertap; CT=Computrainer; CLK=Clock, SRM=SRM) |
+ |
date |
meth |
mph/avg |
mi dist |
time |
watt/avg |
wgt |
w/kg |
Level |
Course & Details |
Dr. Art |
+ |
09/02/08 |
CLK |
19.72 |
34.2 |
01:44:03 |
170 |
153 |
2.444 |
Cat 5
MEN |
Hump
wind: NE (in your face coming home for this follow-up wacking first
accomplished
08/19/08) |
Andreas Runggatscher |
+ |
07/19/08 |
SRM |
22.9 |
34.2 |
01:29:37 |
213 |
147 |
3.173 |
Cat 4
MEN |
Hump
Low watts relative to the 22.9 mph average speed accounted for by
drafting group while an 823 max was also recorded; the time here was calculated from average speed; body
weight is guesstimate, therefore, so is Cat 4 [Andreas is a mainstay
off the FRONT of the FRONT GROUP and enjoys numerous Hump wins
on his resume] |
Zirra |
+ |
06/24/08 |
SRM |
17.01 |
34 |
2 hour |
330 |
240 |
3.025 |
Cat 4
MEN |
Silence of the Lambs
A 1600 watt max was posted, while Mary did the same ride with an
average of 126 watts and finished significantly ahead of Zirra;
but, since she will never in her life get those watt figures, she was
wacked.
Read the story. |
Big Bianchi |
+ |
05/24/08 |
PT |
NA |
NA |
1 hour |
200 |
199 |
2.211 |
Untrained
MEN |
CycleOps Stationary Trainer
At the time of this wacking, Mary's own P.B. 1-hour was just 171
watts. |
Humberto Cavalheiro (Turtle Boy) |
+ |
01/10/08 |
CT |
21.7 |
25 |
1:08:54 |
268 |
144 |
4.094 |
Cat 2
MEN |
Computrainer
Winter training, before Albino kicked his ass and made him get serious |
Floyd Landis |
+ |
Stage 17
2007
TDF |
PT |
NA |
NA |
05:23:00 |
280 |
150 |
3.107 |
Cat 2
MEN |
Like Floyd said, Stage 17 was no mega performance. Still, he did
wack the Widder—though she beat him in the drug test
afterwards. |
Widder |
+ |
08/16/08 |
PT |
19.2 |
19.2 |
1 hour |
174 |
121.6 |
3.148 |
Cat 3
Women |
Mary's current short term goal is to bring this up to Cat 3 MEN,
like her 5 minute P.B. |
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Archived Wackings
Levels Records W/KG per Allan and Coggan, 2006
(meth=method; PT=Powertap; CT=Computrainer; CLK=Clock, SRM=SRM) |
|
date |
meth |
mph/avg |
mi dist |
time |
watt/avg |
wgt |
w/kg |
Level |
Course & Details |
Dr. Art |
+ |
09/02/08 |
CLK |
19.72 |
34.2 |
01:44:03 |
170 |
153 |
2.444 |
Cat 5
MEN |
Hump
wind: NE (in your face coming home for this follow-up wacking first
accomplished
08/19/08) |
+ |
08/19/08 |
CMP |
19.30 |
34.2 |
01:49:08 |
150 |
154 |
2.143 |
Untrained
MEN |
Hump
wind: favorable, see also
Train Track 08/26/08 |
Andreas
Runggatscher |
|
07/19/08 |
SRM |
22.9 |
34.2 |
01:29:37 |
213 |
147 |
3.173 |
Cat 4
MEN |
Hump
Low watts relative to the 22.9 mph average speed accounted for by
drafting group while an 823 max was also recorded; the time here was calculated from average speed; body
weight is guesstimate, therefore, so is Cat 4 [Andreas is a mainstay
off the FRONT of the FRONT GROUP and enjoys numerous Hump wins
on his resume] |
Zirra |
|
06/24/08 |
SRM |
17.01 |
34 |
2 hour |
330 |
240 |
3.025 |
Cat 4
MEN |
Silence of the Lambs
A 1600 watt max was posted, while Mary did the same ride with an
average of 126 watts and finished significantly ahead of Zirra;
but, since she will never in her life get those watt figures, she was
wacked. |
Big Bianchi |
|
05/24/08 |
PT |
NA |
NA |
1 hour |
200 |
199 |
2.211 |
Untrained
MEN |
Cyclops Stationary Trainer
At the time of this wacking, Mary's own P.B. 1-hour was just 171
watts. |
Humberto Cavalheiro (Turtle Boy) |
|
01/10/08 |
CT |
21.7 |
25 |
1:08:54 |
268 |
144 |
4.094 |
Cat 2
MEN |
Computrainer
Winter training, before Albino kicked his ass and made him get serious |
Floyd Landis |
|
Stage 17
2007
TDF |
PT |
NA |
NA |
05:23:00 |
280 |
150 |
3.107 |
Cat 2
MEN |
Like Floyd said, Stage 17 was no mega
performance. Still, he did wack the Widder—though she beat him
in the drug test afterwards. |
Widder |
|
08/16/08 |
PT |
19.2 |
19.2 |
1 hour |
174 |
121.6 |
3.148 |
Cat 3
Women |
Mary's current short term goal is to bring
this up to Cat 3 MEN, like her 5 minute P.B. |
Numbers in bold RED are calculated or
extrapolated from our
simplified chart
.
Due to the fact that the values are not recorded by an objective meter, they
should be considered guestimates for historic interest only, and the
people who have accomplished them should not be harassed based on their
"numbers" or lack thereof.
Requirements for Widder
Wacking
1) Results must be reported
2) Watt results take precedence and are the only true test of wacking
success (speed is far too variable)
3) Consideration is also given to long haul Individual Time Trialing
(such as Dr. Art's Hump tests)
4) Include your body weight of the morning of the test, so power/kg and
Cat assignment can be calculated
Suggestions for Widder Wacking
You might like to try the very techniques (especially if
Time Trialing the Hump) that the Widder herself will be using for her
23+ Widder's Hump. You might say this is how the Widder wacks
herself.
As always begin every ride with a
Flight Check to make sure you are square, balanced, and functional.
Keep in mind that bobbles ain't baubles. If you are confused about any
of this start first with a quick overview using
Egoscue, 1992;
Brourman, 1998; and
Calais-Germain, 2007.
1) Know your FT based on watts and
stay as efficiently near that number as possible
2) Stand for 22 hard strides to re-pace at each
intersection
3) Transition to resting on every hill
1) Know your FT based on
watts and stay as efficiently near that number as possible
Know your FT based on watts and stay as efficiently
near that number as possible. That means uphill, downhill, on the
flats... everywhere.
Mary has done a lot of work to find her true FT
(Functional Threshold) based on an objective measurement. Her power
meter has been crucial in finding it, improving it, and knowing how
to ride based on it. Heart Rate is fine, but by the time your heart
rate tells you there's trouble, it is far too late to do you much
about it.
Not to mention, people wouldn't need HR data if
"perceived effort" had the slightest relationship to "true
exertion," and that is said without even considering the massive
misunderstanding of just how little "perceived exertion" actually
does match anything like the true objective 260 watts required for
Mary's 23+ ride.
Ride speed is basically
meaningless, because of its variability far beyond true performance
criteria. Riding with a group (after they caught her) Mary has
finished the last 12 miles of the Hump with an average mph
over 24. Even alone (with a tail wind) she has finished the last 6
miles with an average over 22 mph using wattage well below her FT.
In fact, one time Mary was over 21 mph using warmup watts (65
average) for that same section.
Plus, with less than a 100 watt average, she once
achieved a terminal velocity of 23.2 mph during a Florida warmup
with a tailwind over a 4 mile unobstructed flat section going up
Gulf Boulevard to the Clearwater bridge, and she didn't even realize
it.
Watts are real. Everything else just gives you
whatever impression you desire about your performance... good or
bad.
2) Stand for 22 hard strides to
re-pace at each intersection
When we began the 23+ Widder's Hump training,
I thought the main problem was going to be for Mary to hold her
watts on the downhills. As it turns out, she can easily hold 320
watts on the steepest downhill found on the Hump course. That
downhill is found on Oil City Road.
The real problem was identified as the pace lost on
the intersections. Just the turns themselves would have been
somewhat problematic, but the addition of car traffic and safety
concerns has shown this to be the big sticking point.
Mary is not very strong overall, so re-pacing once
her forward momentum and inertia are lost requires special handling.
She stands after every turn for a quick 400+ watt burst (10
seconds=22 strides more or less). That changes the muscles she is
using, so the extra effort may be offset by the brief rest provided
to her main pace muscles. In any case, that is a theory which is
still under review.
By pace muscles I am of course referring to portions
of muscle groups, not to the whole muscle group or even a single
muscle itself. After all, we are training at the cellular level
(actually molecular), so it is reasonable to conclude various
muscles are used in varying ways well below their more obvious
functional categorization.
3) Transition to resting
on every hill
Mary originally reported that she needed to stay in
her big ring on certain climbs (such as the hill up to Cross Road),
or she would be spun out and dropped. I found that hard to believe,
and as it turns out she really cannot get up that hill in her
smallest gear without a massive drop in cadence and thus over
torquing. That is to say, she ends up putting in a lot more effort
for the power she is producing.
It is amazing what nonsense a group of knuckleheads
can make you believe.
Mary is also too proud to get a triple (which would
bring much more efficiency to her ride), so I devised a work around.
On every hill Mary performs a standard transition
which is: 1) comes into the hill in her big ring, 2) drops to her
small ring as soon as the hill catches her, 3) drops to an easier
cog each time her cadence drops below 90 and her watts rise over
200, 4) finally when she falls below 90 rpm and over 200 watts in
the lowest cog, she clicks up 2 cogs (maybe 3), and stands to rest
(still not going over 200 watts).
Even though it is always highlighted in documentary
footage of bicycle races (due to the growling aggressive appearance
of it), standing on hills is very inefficient, but Mary refuses the
triple, so I am hoping her transition procedures along with the
resting of her pace muscles (just like the standing after turns)
will make up somewhat for this inefficient indiscretion.
The specifics of Mary's transitions (especially watt
and rpm parameters) will change as she gains more skill. It took
lots of them just for her to understand the logic and what each step
is doing for her. When she finally gets really good at them, she may
be able to transition to her small ring and the appropriate cog
before the hill begins. We'll see.
There you have it. Now you yourself can use the same
process the Widder uses to wack herself.
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